Airline Flights Diverted, Security Threats, Pounding on Cockpit Door

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Announcer: The David Pakman Show at David Pakman: Welcome to the show, David Pakman
here. A lot to talk about. Later on we’ll talk to Dave Zirin. Louis, there’s a plethora
of anti-gay sports stuff going on, it just seems the Kobe Bryant incident has unleashed
a fury of anti-gay sports stuff, so we’ll talk to Dave Zirin. Also talk to David Morey.
And Louis is looking over my shoulder like there’s just really strange stuff happening
on the screen. I don’t even… Louis Motamedi: You don’t even want to know.
OK, never mind. David: I don’t even want to look. Louis: We’re good now. David: Is it worse than the Michael Jackson
ghost picture that popped up once? Louis: Way worse. Way worse. It was a thousand
times worse. David: So I’ve got a bunch of flights coming
up, and you kind of do, too, Louis, and all of the airline news recently is not making
me too thrilled about having to fly. Number one, we have the bin Laden stuff, which some
people say is just going to create a lot more tense situations at airports. Louis: Paranoia. David: Paranoia, for sure. And listen to some
of these stories. First of all, there was a Delta flight that was diverted over New
Mexico due to a security threat. And an airport spokesman just said that the plane was going
to Detroit to San Diego, it was diverted to Albuquerque, and then it was cleared for takeoff
after a potential security threat. Everybody on-board, over 100 people, were interviewed,
and passengers were allowed to continue on. Sounds like there was somebody on-board with
a beard probably, right? I mean, that, in many cases, as we saw with a couple of pilots,
that’ll scare people. Louis: We don’t have any follow-up on this,
any… David: I’ve not seen anything about exactly
what happened. And an FBI spokesman also declined to add any more information. I wonder what
it was. You would think by now we would’ve heard from one of the 107 passengers that
was on-board. Louis: Right. Very strange. David: And then we had an individual on an
American Airlines flight into San Francisco, minutes before the plane landed, he went up
to the cockpit door and started pounding on it. And I guess pretty quickly a male flight
attendant tackled the guy. He was 28-year-old Rageit Almurisi, and he had a Yemeni passport,
living in California. He started yelling, he brushed past flight attendants, he started
banging on the door. This was American flight 1561. And I guess the guy was also assisted…
the flight attendant was also assisted by some passengers, and they were able to get
the guy into plastic handcuffs. He was charged with interfering with flight crew. You know, I always wonder, if I was… I think
about it, I don’t know, I wouldn’t say often, but I do think what would I do if I was on
one of those flights where I start seeing someone charge the cockpit door and I’m right
there, aisle seat? Would I get up and try to tackle the guy, or would I be frozen by
the confusion, you know? What would you do, do you think? I mean, you… Louis: Well, I mean, you have to see if the
guy’s running to the bathroom first. David: That’s the thing, where you… Louis: You can’t just, you know, always be
completely paranoid, jump to conclusions, and then punch some innocent guy in the face. David: I assume in the moment, I would wait
long enough to be sure that the guy was doing something wrong before doing anything, and
by then it might be too late, depending on what it is. Louis: Well, I mean… well, they keep the
cockpit locked, so… David: Or other– or another situation, you
see a guy take something out of his bag and it looks like it’s some kind of explosive
and he starts, you know, a firecracker, like the Underwear Bomber or whatever. How — would
I act quickly? I would like to think that I would. Louis: Yeah, but how… I mean, you never
really know how your brain will process something… David: Exactly. Louis: So, yeah, I guess you can’t really
say until it happens. David: There was another story, a 34-year-old
man from Illinois tried to open a plane door on a Continental flight during the flight. Louis: Right, I heard about this. David: And investigators questioned him but
didn’t file any charges, but what would he try… why… what would encourage him to
try to open a door in mid-flight? I don’t know. Louis: You have to assume he was trying to
bring down the plane. David: Well, if that was the case, then you
would think there would be more than just a questioning. It sounds more like it could’ve
been some kind of confusion or a mental illness type of situation. I don’t know. Louis: That seems to be the only other…
only other answer. David: I actually lately have been thinking
more about security on trains. Not that I don’t… you’ve heard my rants. Louis: Yeah, because there is none. David: Because there is none. I’ve been using
trains more lately to travel around, and I’m just amazed how I just go up, don’t even show
ID, just buy a ticket and then run onto the train. Usually I have about 15 seconds to
spare, I’m usually right… almost late every single time, but putting that aside, there’s
just no security. And we’ve seen some of the… Louis: And how can you… how can you possibly
secure the entire railway, right? David: That’s a given. Louis: Yeah. David: That… forget that. But I’m just talking
about people on the train. But you’re right. Louis: Well, it’s one and the same. If someone
decides to go to some remote region where there happens to be a railway, blow up a piece
of the track, oh, that train’s going to derail. David: Right. Yeah. I actually just finished
reading Agatha Christie’s “Murder on the Orient Express”. That probably got me thinking more
about trains, too. Not actually fearing murders on the train, but just in general about the
total lack of security. Louis: Right. Yeah. Not so much a whodunit
thing. David: Right. Transcript provided by Alex Wickersham and For transcripts, translations, captions, and subtitles, or for more information,
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