The true cost of flying – VPRO documentary

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  1. Andew Tarjanyi

    December 8, 2018 8:14 am

    In Western "civilization" air-travel has engendered a delusional general sense of accomplishment which has, in effect perpetuated an infantilized society. This effect is inescapable except for self-imposed social isolation to which one must adapt if one is to maintain one's sanity, personal intellectual and existential development.

    People of said that travel broadens the mind for which there is absolutely no evidence and not only do people who are widely travelled communicate in very poor English (and presumably all languages) they consistently struggle to form original thoughts and are not motivated to form meaningful questions about the reality they inherited which ought to have been the only motivation for the exploration that travel implies.

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  2. James Flames

    December 8, 2018 9:01 am

    Best way to lower emissions in all aspects is to lower the human population. Declining birth rates should be cherished and not to be replaced by some immigrants that will have access to emit more pollution.

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  3. vpro documentary

    December 8, 2018 9:03 am

    Thanks for everybody that has been online this morning! Tell us, what you think about the documentary!

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  4. Karol Bagh

    December 8, 2018 11:31 am

    I am quite skeptic about battery powered planes…

    But hydrogen can solve the long haul challenge, electric planes are facing …

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  5. Kevin S. Craig

    December 8, 2018 5:17 pm

    Hopefully you continue this theme with other global economy driven industries, the two industries that I believe are under reported for emissions are commercial shipping and the petro-chemical sector.

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  6. axor22

    December 12, 2018 6:01 pm

    As someone who does around 100 flights per year, this documentary has made me more aware of how damaging it is for the environment. Good job

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  7. windmill1965

    December 13, 2018 1:18 pm

    It is useful that the documentary shows that Europe is severely lacking in a good-functioning pan-European high-speed train network. Once you have traveled in China or Japan on these trains you know why European trains cannot compete with the airline industry. My guess is that the same can be said for North America (US, Canada) as well.

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  8. Soordhin

    December 14, 2018 4:49 am

    Pipistrel certainly did something well, however, they are best at marketing. The first fully electrical aircraft in series production has been out to the market since 2003, with the Antares 20E. Yes, very low production, yes, it is mainly a glider with an electrically driven propeller, and of course, it is a single seater plane. Has so far flown in excess of 12 hours at a time, 2000km in one go. Efficiency has its benefits.

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  9. Saltanat Madenova

    December 16, 2018 9:33 pm

    This topic should be discussed in the newspapers weekly or monthly, in details, to sensibilize people! Thank you very much for this documentary and thanks to those people who take the problem of obsolete and polluting aviation into consideration and try to bring new solutions, so that the humankind can continue in a more sustainable way!

    As a traveller within Europe, I have choice between trains and planes. When I can, (when there is a place and the price for the ticket is not very high), I buy a train ticket rather than take an airplane. However, when it comes to travelling from one part of the world to another, there is the only way to do so – to fly by an airplane. So, the big companies operating at long destinations should preoccupy themselves the first to reform their means.

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  10. Alien Machine

    January 4, 2019 7:15 am

    It's not going to change. Good luck dreaming up. There is physics and it has it's own limits. Imagination is good. We must be satisfied with what we have.

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  11. Onur Göktürk

    January 5, 2019 3:47 pm

    It might be an obstacle for positive changes, but I really like how slowly Europe processes things. You have to convince everyone that it is right. In China, there are simply no people to convince. What the party says is the rule.

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  12. Pietro Bembo

    January 16, 2019 11:48 pm

    Thanks VPRO for another very educative docu. I see one major problem here; where is all that electricity going to come from ! ?
    I don't think that we will be able to anticipate that high an increase of electricity demand if we rule out nuclear power stations until we come up with a power source capable to produce the equivalence or equivalent KW compared to nuclear,

    The today electrical demand in any European country except of maybe Norway cannot cope on fossil & renewable energy alone without the backing of nuclear, so how are we going to cope with a massive surge in electrical energy in such a short period of time ! ?

    Also; one has to bear in mind; all the mining needed to produce the ores/minerals needed to produce all those batteries.
    In was interesting to see how lobbyists infiltrate the European parliament to obstruct and to slow down necessary and urgent changes in the way we live.

    Very refreshing to see how the Chinese handle things, in Europe and US you have too many people having their say, the Chinese just get on with the job, they are quick to learn and to adept. Well done China.

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  13. Tommas H.R.

    March 26, 2019 12:09 pm

    Good documentary👏🏼 But I would like it better if you had spoken more to the airline operators about what they are doing and what they want. Several operators like Easyejet would love to fly emission free, if that was an option. And new aircrafts are allot more fuel efficient then before. I did not know about the EU regulation concerning VAT free tickets and tax free fuel, but I thing they should follow the path of Norway and Sweden, both in VAT and tax on jetfuel, but also on implementing some biofuel into jetfuel. Norway and Sweden also have a «passanger fee» on airtravel to «pay for the emissions», but I think this money should be allocated to ecofriendly alternatives and/or research and development of green technology. Lastly I think you should have shown a simple illustration on what an all electric 737 would be like in terms of weight, «fuel density», range and trafficload(payload).
    Best regard from a commercial pilot student😊

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  14. Roy Lancaster

    April 9, 2019 2:22 am

    Ahhhhh! If only it were CO2 coming out the back sides of aircraft, autos, etc.
    Jet fuel, petroleum. Mmmmmmmmm, Scrumptious!
    Why do you think people die when they leave the car running in an enclosed space? Earth is a big enclosed space. We are all high on the fumes, lobsterlike in a slowly boiling pot of water.
    This is my attempt to wake from the illusion. Anyone else?

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  15. Nicole K

    April 26, 2019 2:07 pm

    Finally, a documentary saying what I have being saying unpopularly for over 20 years. Nobody pays the true cost of energy.

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  16. Sven

    August 3, 2019 5:30 am

    just accept that we and our grandkids are going away very soon and there's not a thing we can do about it. accept oblivion. oh and stop breeding people only for them to die. if you're serious about stopping suffering. most of you are not of course.

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  17. allgoo19

    September 5, 2019 11:03 pm

    I'm thinking (wind powered)ocean liner eventually have to make a come back.
    Electric powered airlines are just not practical, too costly.

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